OK, I'll try links instead

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff308/Covinacrash/FJ...0bumper/MVC-018F.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff308/Covinacrash/FJ...0bumper/MVC-017F.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff308/Covinacrash/FJ...0bumper/MVC-016F.jpg

not trying to sound mad myself, but if it cost you $1500 to build your own bumper... you're getting fuc*ed on steel prices... really, bro... theres no way it would ever cost that much, unless youre building teh stoustest (sp?) bumper ever!!

No I didn't say it would COST me $1500, I said I wouldn't build one for less than that. Or I wouldn't charge less than that because it cost me more than $700. If I am working on it, it cost me money because I could be working on a paying job. But just so we are clear, steel is expensive, and has gotten worse lately. A 6' x 20" piece of 1/4" plate sheered and broken at two locations cost me $225 all by itself over 2 yrs ago. I had to buy solid 3/4" bar stock, 1/2" round tubing, 3/8" plate, 14 gauge sheet metal for the lamp pockets, and 1/4x2" flat stock for light tabs. Add to that the supplies that get used up(cut off wheels, grinding discs, and the time, and I KNOW it's cheaper to buy it.

I guess it pays to have friends then, cause I am getting a tube bumper, with winch mount, and stinger for a lot less than $800...(and thats for a full size truck... ) oh well... good luck, bro

I am not sure I understand all the cost you guys are talking about, why bother when you can get the Shrockworks for $700 and it a great bumper for 98-04. Click Here

Plus it looks great Click Here

because there aren't any bumpers made for my truck... the ARB for f250s works, but its like $1500... and I would NEVER pay that much for a bumper like that...

but I really do like the shrockworks bumper better than the ARB...

Gumy you are right on, I was trying to illustrate your point. I don't make bumpers for a living, but I've made 8 of them. The shrockworks bumper will be on order for this Fronty by the end of the week.