I'll try to do some "research", and find out who's making the diesel for the Titan.

One thing is for sure, though, after talking with a friend, Nissan is most definately going to offer a diesel Titan in the very near future.

Thats a Nice article. I like the idea they (Fronty + Titan) will share components. This makes lift kits easier to design for the vendor world.

I guess Mini trucks are just history now...

Interesting... 6500lb towing capacity. And a 4.0L V6... I kinda like it.

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PLEASE do not let them modify a current motor to run on diesel, GM did that years ago and it was a failure.
Lator.....

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Although GM failed at this because GM tends to under build crap compared to everyone eles the Powerstroke engine and previous IDI engines were based on a HUGE International gasoline engine. They do NOT share the same block, but the design and casting is very similar and was based off an earlier international engine. The difference is the old international gasonline engine was WAY WAY WAY overbuilt even for a diesel engine......although it was BASED off the engine, the block is a seperate design.

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It would be neat to see a "Powerstroke Titan" I don't think I would even give it a second look if they put in a cummins.

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Take a look at the rods in a Cummins 6b and a power stroke. The rod is about twice as large in the Cummins.. This was while doing some research for a tow rig earlier. The cummins is a much stronger engine then the powerstroke, but the powerstroke is NOT a bad engine at all.

It would be cool if they put a yanmar in it.

Whats A "Yanmar"

sorry. kind of a joke.
Yanmar is a japanise (i can't spell) diesel motor company that make's diesels for boats.
They are known for being light but strong and very reliable. Don't know about non marine applacations, would be cool though.

My Parent's 35 foot Class A RV has a Marine/Utility Cummins Turbo Diesal. They are designed for bad water, and full throttle/max RPM. Much better engine than their land based brethern. Not to mention more water resilient!

Since I didn't read it anywhere.. Nissan has signed an agreement with Navistar International to use one of their engines for the Diesel.

From what I understand and have been told, it will not be a PowerStroke knockoff. It will have plenty of HP and Torque.. And the Weak Link will be the Tranny.. The Engine will be detuned from International, so that it won't kill the tranny to quickly. That being said, it should be pretty easy to get that power back with some ECU Programming..

Cliff

That is killer, fawk the Big 3. I hope they make a good trans for it then because nobody wants that headach to crop up while pulling a trailer up the grapevine.

They detuned the current 5.6 Endurance engine for the same reason. I've been told that engine was putting out around 500 hp before they arrived at the current production numbers.

#1 they better offer some sort of manual transmission.

#2 the only viable engines international makes for the light truck market are the VT 365 and the T444E Now I seriously doubt this due to weight, but there is also the DT466. It would be cool if they used that engine as it's easy to rebuild and super popular.



T444E= old 7.3 powerstroke
VT 365 = new 6.0 powerstroke

Ya, I was just thinkning about the New Dodge POwer Wagon and what a mutha that is. If NIssan wants to keep the Titan name real, it ought to eclipse the POwer WAgon, otherwise the Titan will be known as needing a TITAN wallet, just to keep up.

I look forward to NIssan R&D having the last word as far as overall costs of production and standard options, vs, the pencil pushing suits that always have the last word as far as budgetary concerns.

I mean w/ a name like Titan, it ought to mean something, right?

I hope they fix it good.

They cant use the T444E anymore due to emissions requirements..

So that would narrow it down to the VT365. I pray they do NOT use this engine.. ..as it is a bastardized problematic motor, and at least with Ford's engine control system isn't all that reliable from everything I've seen. Too many of them are self destructing for no reason and noone knows why.

I have heard of many problems with the NEW 6.0 powerstroke as far as engine managment goes, but I have heard nothing such as the internals of the engines going all to hell. The big thing I DO NOT like about the VT365 is the location of the cam gears and oil/injection pump....in the rear!!!


as for the T444E , that's very strange. I was reading international's website and thought it had the new EGR system which they have also added to the inline 6 motors... it doesn't seem like it would take much well...ok the VT365 has 4 vavles per cylinder which could allow for more complete combustion, but I bet a lot of the reduced emissions on the VT365 has to do with the new EGR system which is supposed to be on all the International engines, DT570 and down. At least as far as I read. The moral of this cluter of words.... it SHOULDN"T take much for international to make the T444E emissions compliant you would THINK, but I could be wrong..heck it could be displacment alone. Regardless I don't have the complete lack of faith you do in the powerstroke 6.0/VT365, but I have much more in the proven T444E.

Should have called Cummins....then again an I6 probably wouldn't fit well in a Titan.

The major problems I've seen resulted in the engine self destructing internally, with a stock engine. The end result was 2-3 pistons melting down. This is probably due to a malfunctioning Ford engine control system though, but who knows..

I dont like the VT365 though. Besides the reliability issues, it is much too complicated, and is a serious PITA to work on.

If International can make the T444E smog legal, it would be a good engine for the Titan and would probably take a lot of sales away from Ford, as there are quite a few unhappy 6.0 owners now. The only issues with the T444E in the Fords are due to Ford's engine control systems. THe engine itself is decent.

Ford got WAY too complicated with injection related issues on the VT365. From what I have read of school bus shops the T444E has proven very well in international chassis. I wish there was some way to support the DT466. 1/2million mile motor, rebuild kits super cheap, capable of 800lb ft easy, very economical..but at 1400lbs, 400 over the VT365 and 460 over the T444E (yes its lighter) it would be hard to put that in a light duty truck.

OK, I just checked with my source to get more skinny...

The engine is the VT275 V6... I beleive that is the little brother of the VT365, but don't know for sure...

International rates this Engine at 270hp at 100% duty cycle, and around 500ftlb of Torque at the same rating..

Max Torque at around 1600 RPM all the way through 3600 RPM (max RPM)

International is getting 10-12mpg from this engine in 10K+ pound trucks. Therefore, it should easily get above 20mpg in a light weight Titan.

Actual Nissan HP and Torque numbers will likely be much greater than stated above, due to the difference in how heavy trucks and light trucks can rate engine specs. Also, actual configuration of the engine will likely be much different than how International builds them for heavy trucks. Just like the Powerstroke is different than an International VT365..

Cliff Planck

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400 over the VT365 and 460 over the T444E (yes its lighter) it would be hard to put that in a light duty truck.

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The name Titan shouldn't be associated w/ a "light duty truck".
C/mon NIssan!