If you read closer, they were voiding the warrenty both times by towing over the recommened limit while still under 5000 miles. I don't understand the reason for it either, but they tell you not to, and Four Wheeler found out the hard way when they shredded the ring gear, not the inner axles themselves... and d44's are not too small for a titan, how about grand waggys with their weaker d44's and more vehicle weight... I don't understand how you guys can bash the Titans axles when hardly anybody out there has hardcore wheeled a stock Titan. I have come as close as you can with my stock Titan and it handles EVERYTHING I throw at it and begs for more, and there are plenty of people on this site that can attest to that... D44's are more than enough axle for this truck with 35's or less, I guaren-damn-tee it... also, it was on the '04 Titan that the ring gear was sheared, Nissan "revamped" the rearend in '05... As for off roading and needing a 70 or 80, thats just plain rediculous. Something else you might find interesting is the Titan's axles shafts ARE the same diameter as d70 shafts...

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D44's are more than enough axle for this truck with 35's or less, I guaren-damn-tee it...

I munched mine......and they didn't change the gears, they upgrade to the finned cover and go from 80-90 dino oil to 90-140 synthetic. However, warranty only allows them to replace the entire axle, not just the gears. I tried to get them to just do the gears and cover and I would pay for different gears, no go. The entire axle has to be swapped. I'm still not too comfy about it. When my other projects get done some day, I'll probably sling a 9" under it.

I would agree that it's strong enough for daily and wheeling use...just not heavy towing. If you towed consistently the rated tow amount, that rear D44 will get used up. The bigger aluminum finned diff cover is one of the changes for 2005...it holds another quart of gear oil and keeps those temps down a bit - heat kills gears.

Also, if you ever go to crawler gears, remember that you'd be multiplying the torque, and with the big 5.6 V8, that could become an issue as well.

For what you use it for, it's all the axle you need.

if you consistently tow 9,500lbs or more on any axle, its gonna get used up (short of an 80)... I know the titan 44 is by no means the best choice for the truck, but it'll handle 35/36's on medium duty trail/rocks and mud pits all day long... I would never put a 9" under it though, unless its a curry, that axle stock is no stronger than the one you have, might as well go d60 if you're swapping... I just wish they would have used a full width 233b, or 260...

Yes, the H260 should have been the natural choice.

No one said the axleshafts couldn't handle the load/stress. It's the Ring and Pinion itself that's weak and been breaking, therefore requiring a larger axle w/a larger R&P.

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Originally posted by chevyman_57:

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D44's are more than enough axle for this truck with 35's or less, I guaren-damn-tee it...

I'll probably sling a 9" under it.

Arod already said it is a 9". I dont think its a Dana 44 in anyway. Not sure why people keep thinking that. Its just made by Dana for Nissan.

Nissan USA is trying to use more local suppliers on the American made stuff. My 93 D21 USA made has a Spicer/Dana driveshafts frt and rear stock.

mine had never seen a trailer, and it shelled at 13,000 miles....I get nervous everytime I hook up to a trailer. The gears are dana 44 size, a ford 9" is much stronger. I plan on replacing the axle once I'm done with the hardbody.

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Originally posted by nissannut:

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Originally posted by chevyman_57:

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D44's are more than enough axle for this truck with 35's or less, I guaren-damn-tee it...

I'll probably sling a 9" under it.

Arod already said it is a 9". I dont think its a Dana 44 in anyway. Not sure why people keep thinking that. Its just made by Dana for Nissan.

Nissan USA is trying to use more local suppliers on the American made stuff. My 93 D21 USA made has a Spicer/Dana driveshafts frt and rear stock.

I never said it was a 9", its a d44 (f and r), it says it in all the literature
all nissan (for a long while anyway) have had spicer u joints and shafts... my frontier had them as well as my titan

also, not trying to argue a lot, but how did you come to the conclusion that a 9" rearend is stronger?

ford 9"s have bigger, thicker gears, and beefier pinion supports, plus you can get 1.5" diameter axle shafts....I'll put the 9" in the hardbody against any 44, any day. 44's have a 1.31 diameter axle shaft, 9" can run a 1.5"....44's have an 8.5" thin ring gear, 9"s have a 9" thick ring gear, there's no comparison.

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Originally posted by chevyman_57:
... 9" can run a 1.5"....44's have an 8.5" thin ring gear, 9"s have a 9" thick ring gear, there's no comparison.

I posted specs on the Titan rear axle on pg 1 of this thread, and if you notice, the Titan has a 9" ring gear diameter as well... so there is some comparison...

then it's not a 44....either way, I've had no problems with 9"s burning up on me, and neither has anybody else I know. The nissan dealer on the other hand, has put many new rearends in.

then its not a 44?... ha... Yeah right, you have no idea what you're talking about... not trying to sound like an ass, but seriously... just because its not like d44's you've seen before doesn't mean its not a 44... if you notice our 44's also have a 12 bolt cover, instead of the common 10 bolt, and 32 splines instead of the common 31... It is a d44, and it is a better axle than you give it credit to be. They might have had a problem with some '04 rearends, but there's way more people without a problem than with, otherwise it'd be a recall... but when you waste money swapping in the 9", i'll be more than happy to take the Titan rearend off your hands...

It's a variation of a D44...Nissan advertises it as such, however, it has no parts interchangeability with other D44's

I have only seen Nissan use the word Dana axles.

Oh well I plan to buy a Titan one day regardless. My brother inlaw has been towing his boat or 24" camper with it for 2-3 years with no problems. He towes through CA, NV and AZ deserts in 115+ deg. His has the optional cover now. Its also his daily driver. He loves the Titan. I got to drive it a few times when I visiting this year.

His is all original rear end.

each to their own....I've measured my new one with a pyrometer I borrowed, and the temps were still above recommended levels for gear lube, and that was with light towing. If you think the axle is fine, by all means stick with it. I'll go my own way. Honestly, if I knew what I do now, I'm nto sure I would have bought the truck... 2 sets of brakes, one tranny, a rearend, a front bumper, interior pieces, MAF sensor, seat belts (that still don't work), instrument panel squeakes, door rattles, and now a tranny line spewing fluid.....I'm dissapointed in it, my hardbody hasn't had half the problems in it's 17 years of existence.

then you must have bought the worst titan ever made... I'm a memberon a board...titantalk.com... with over 18,000 (i think) titan owners who also post the positives and negatives on their truck, brakes (almost everyone), rear end (some, mostly '04's), bumper (never), tranny (never, with any nissan for that matter, ha), seat belts (very few). Also you had to know that some problems were gonna arise when you boughthe first year of a 100% new truck, thats why I waited 'till '05, and I have 17,500 miles on my truck, which I drive EXTREMELY hard, and the only problem I've had is with the brakes, but thats not a Nissan part, its Bosch (sp?)... so anyway, I haven't meant to be on your case, I just know that not many people know much about the Titan on this board but rag on it all the time when really its still, hands down, the best full size truck on the market. Trade in your '04 and buy an '06 and I swear it will win you over...

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Originally posted by A-Rod:
the Titan has a 9" ring gear diameter as well... so there is some comparison...

But not 3 bearings on the pinion shaft, like the 9".

bumper was paint coming off the plastic, not that something happened..tranny, I installed an aftermarket tranny temp gauge, then got blamed for it whent he tranny shelled because it may have caused the failure due to higher line pressures, even though I had made sure to mike the I.D. of the "t" to be sure it was no smaller than the I.D. of the 12+feet of steel tubing they use...no matter, I paid $5400 for a tranny. I'm also on titantalk. As for no tranny problems with any nissan...quite a few with autos have had problems on the earlier ones. If they made a titan with a manual, I would trade mine in so fast...

it sounds like you need to trade in the truck for a Chevy anyway... I mean, come on, paint on your bumper...?!? Probably came off from rocks hitting it on the interstate... just sounds like youre looking for things to complain about