1 > For the Hammers i'm thinking we will tackle Clawhammer, Sledghammer, and lower Johnson, That should pretty much fill the day. (33's & Lockers front and rear, 35+ strongly recomended)

2 > The Black diamonds we will do Rattlesnake cyn, Gold Mtn, John Bull, and possibly pontiac sluice. (31's Sliders and a Locker or 33's w/ lotsa flex - locker recomended,

3 > Moderate - Rattlesnake cyn, jacoby cyn, east end of John Bull, (4wd req'd) (will be making changes on this one)

4 > Easy - rattlesnake cyn, lone cyn, 2N61Y, 2N01, (still figuring this one out...)

5 > pre-running /jumping/racing

just post up and type in the # trail you want to run

working on getting some pics of each trail

sledgehammer? I dont think thats a good trail to run, I have seen tubed buggy's have difficulty.

most of the hammer trails are pretty hardcore. the only trail i think we can pull off with ifs rigs will be aftershock. it would take a good 3 hours to complete too. some winching and tugging will be required for those not blessed with a front locker. awesome trail though.
i really hope you arizona folks can make it!

Isn't John Bull a long ways from johnson valley?

I've run that trail...that's way up by Big Bear.

Sounds like a good string of trails tho.

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Originally posted by Desert Rat:
Isn't John Bull a long ways from johnson valley?

I've run that trail...that's way up by Big Bear.

Sounds like a good string of trails tho.

Yup it's in big bear but we'll all get there from JV via Rattlesnake canyon which is a cool canyon.

I will follow Robin...

robins not goin unless he changed his mind

It is being considered, which brings up an excellent point, who is going to be the trail leader for some of these runs?

That person is going to have to be able to say NO if a vehicle is not built for the trail they are running. Sometimes we bite off more than we can chew, and thats OK, but not at a meet with this many rigs, there has to be minimum requirments.

Not trying to be an ass, just trying to save us from fixing shit all day.

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I will follow Robin...

Well shit, I was going to follow you..........I guess there will be two crawlers, crawling in circles all weekend

well as far as rigs on the hammers im pretty sure there the max is gonna be 10 , or atleast thats what im see right now , most of the guys goin out are pre-runners or running the moderate to difficult trails

very few are running the hammers

Here is the maps with (most) everything marked on it. We'll camp at the marker on means dry lake.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=http:%...ons.kmz&ie=UTF8&z=11

just about to post that haha

Good thing you posted that map, I was thinking we were wheeling down by Interstate 8 near Mexicali. I was planning on Friday night party in Mexi.

Guess my plans will have to change.

also Az guys we plan on caravaning out there , we are meeting up at the loves country store on miller rd and I-10 at 10am

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Originally posted by revans2003:
It is being considered, which brings up an excellent point, who is going to be the trail leader for some of these runs?

That person is going to have to be able to say NO if a vehicle is not built for the trail they are running. Sometimes we bite off more than we can chew, and thats OK, but not at a meet with this many rigs, there has to be minimum requirments.

Not trying to be an ass, just trying to save us from fixing shit all day.

33's with two lockers, or 35's with rear locker for aftershock. allpro offroad used that guide for their fj cruiser run and they ran it just fine.
im not sure about the other hammer trails, but aftershock is said to be the easiest. ifs will definately be lifting wheels.