O.k. we have a few companies that are doing all they can for the Nissan community. Unfortunatly, very few of these companies want to work with each other as they (at least that's what I think) because they feel the Nissan demand is only big enough for thier company. Well, I want to encourage these companies to put there differences aside and see how they can help each other while growing our wonderful community. I am not going throw names around but 2 particular companies come to mind. One does a great job at research and development and supplying. The other has a customer base and ability to distribute products actively. Imagine if these 2 companies were to join forces, I'm not saying merge, I am thinking taking on a more specailized role. I think both companies would grow tremendously while growing our community. I may be way out of line and I don't expect any of these companies to respond to these posts but I hope that this will plant a seed and get some minds going. An example of this would be Pro-comp and 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers. If any company is apprehensive about contacting another, I am sure any of the Moderaters includung myself would be happy to descretly help out. The pieces are out there, now if we can get them to work together we will be the envy. Just my thoughts.
Lator.......

then they can charge whatever they want...competition is a good thing, look at the toyota market right now

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fawkers, fawkers, fawkers...

I agree. Prices ROCK if you have toyota stuff right now.

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I'm not sure if I am following you guys, but I believe it will cause others to step up to the plate. I am thinking that the more people who can easily get the stuff the more that will buy and the more that will buy will reuire a bigger quantity to make manufacturing cheaper. Remember the manufacturers don't have to use one distributer. Same example, Pro-Comp can be bought at National Tire and Wheel.
Lator.....

Each of you have good points. Competition keeps prices low, but size enables more funds for R&D and product ideas.

Of course it's never just as simple as combining forces when it comes to businesses. Things are pretty good as they are, especially when you consider where the Nissan aftermarket was just 3 years ago.


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Originally posted by Gator:
I'm not sure if I am following you guys, but I believe it will cause others to step up to the plate....Remember the manufacturers don't have to use one distributer. Same example, Pro-Comp can be bought at National Tire and Wheel.
Lator.....

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alright an example is the improved birfield joints. longfield was seling them for ~$130, so allpro put out thier version, the profield, and sold them for $79+shipping. longfield came back with $80 shipped.
same thing with chromo axles...

the difference here is that there is still only one company actually designing worthwhile parts for nissan. what the nissan market needs is not for the actual companies to combine and create a "superpower," so to speak, but for another fabrication company to show up and build stuff the webwheelers don't even know about (i.e. krawler gears, sye, sas kit, etc)

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I see exactly what Mike is saying. He's not talking about a superpower, but about perhaps dropping the "no mention of other aftermarket vendors" additude for the mutual good of both companies, as well as the Nissan community.

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oh ok thats something that i do agree on...

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You bring up some good points. I do want to say that I don't know how the rumor started that we only do resale and don't do any manufacturing here, but it's wrong. We do have R&D and manufacturing that goes on, on a daily basis here. There are a lot of new products being tested and more on the drawing board.

I think some of the confusion may come in because we do sell many products manufactured by other companies already and that has increased greatly in the last year. I took a lot of time to contact manufacturers about Nissan products, the one's they already had available and bringing new ones to the market. It benefits AC, but it also benefits Nissan owners. We are not set up to manufacture things like plastics or shocks, and since there are so many manufacturers who do this well, we work to make sure they have the applications available that we need. Why reinvent the wheel?

With all the new products we are selling now, it gives us the opportunity to expand. In the months to come, we will provide even more products while keeping the prices competitive. Because of the upcoming expansions, more money will be available to invest in new products for Nissans.

Because it is the Holiday Season, we have been focusing most of our time on making sure all the orders arrive in time to make it under the tree. Once our commitment to our customers for Holiday delivery is taken care of, we can once again focus on making new products available. Santa's been working over time this year.

The Nissan after-market is bountiful. There is plenty of room for friendly competition. The one's to benefit in the end is the customer. With the arrival of the Armada and Titan, things will only get better.

A way you can help is by letting us know what you want to see made available. I don't always have time to check the boards like I would like to but you can always send an e-mail. It's not always feasible, but we do try to bring as many products as possible to the market.

As far as discussing other vendors on the boards, I think N4W has put together an excellent balance right here.

I do want to say Thank You to all of our customers for your continued support. This will be AC's best year ever and we owe that to you!

Thanks,

Jane

When is AC gonna bring some competition to the steering market? That above all else is what I wanna see soon. I am far too cheap to pay 600 bucks for a steering replacement.

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Great post Jane. We on N4W do appreciate that business like yourself and Calmini stop in to let the community know what's going on. The bottom line is that there IS more than one player in the Nissan aftermarket, and I think that because of that, they all put out great products. I for one run AC, Calmini, and SLR parts on my truck. I'm pleased with everything I have. More and more these days, if you're looking for something for your truck, these suppliers carry it, or it's in the works.


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i'm not talking about bolt-on stuff, or ifs stuff...

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What I was trying to do was diplomaticly ask calmini or AC to call one another so that in the case of the SYE, 25 units could probably be pre-sold almost instantly. I know AC does produce many parts. It's just that AC has done such a great job at uniting more Nissan owners than ever before. Love them or hae them, they have been a major part of us getting anything at all. Right now AC is devoting a lot of time to getting us products we want. There is a lot of time and manpower involved in that. Calmini is trying to develop some very specailized items. That also takes time. It just seems that both companies are at a point where they have opposite problems. It just seemed logical to me that if these 2 were to share some resources, it would definately get some notice. I know both companies can do all of the work involved, it just looks like a good combo right now. These 2 companies have put more effort into Nissan aftermarket than many realize.

This thread had nothing to do with relaxing the rules over at AC. I think the rule about speaking about other venders is absolutely acceptable. They pay the bill, so they make the rules. There are plenty of other boards you can discuss other venders. You all would be pissed if I took your girlfriend out to a romantic dinner and put it on your credit card!!! If you don't like it, to bad....life sucks for you!!!

Lator......

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Originally posted by Lady Nissan:
Why reinvent the wheel?

Jane

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Heh, that's interesting. I could be completely off base here, but it seems it's for just this reason that we don't have vendor cooperation in the Nissan community. I'm speaking mostly about aftermarket UCA's. There are what 4 or 5 different upper control arms on the market for our trucks. AC sells 2 of them. I guess I just don't see why there is a big calmini/ac rift, if AC can sell rancho uca's, why can't a deal be struck with calmini to sell their uca's. I personally think calmini's are overkill and way to $$$, but others might not. Along the same lines, AC lost out on losta $$$ by not being the first to market with an aftermarket steering solution, even though for the most part it was the AC board that made apparent the need and demand for such a product. If AC and Calmini were in cahoots, AC could at least be getting a cut of calmini products sold through their board. Anyway, seems to me we could get some better and cheaper products if these companies work toghether rather than redesigning the uca 5 times...

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I think that alot of you who feel that more people need to develop more parts for Nissans should take matters into your own hands. I think if I were given a couple weeks, I could successfully design a SYE kit for a Nissan.

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