billie,

Just call me Mr. Skeptical. I'm only skeptical of the Hp claim on the k&n filter vs. the factory version. They are simply too much alike. The only difference is the webbing on the inlet side and the fact that oil is used on the k&n. This is an take-off of the old oil baths that were so prevailent in the 50's & 60's. Just look under the hood of a refurbished 57' chevy sometime. However, I must admit to the longevity claim of the filter's engineers namely-it should outlast the original.

I must admit, the gas mileage increase part of the claim is true. I'm not saying for sure there is no Hp increase mind you. But, if there is any Hp increase-it's very negligable and is certainly no leap in Hp like the claim of the resister kit from eBay, a whopping 20+. I too installed one of these filters and am currently running it now. So, I can speak confidently and not be skeptical about the mileage increase. Too bad I can't say the same for the Hp increase.

Yeah, call me Mr. Skeptical all day long. I still don't see the k&n filter defying physical axioms like "You can't have both fuel mileage & power at the same time". Do you? Has anyone really achieved any noticeable increase in Hp by using the k&n filter setup alone? I don't think so! Look at the saleability of this filter system. Of course, they will claim both economizing and power boosting. No telling how many of these have sold. Don't get me wrong, the durability of the filter and the added air intake value was enough to sale the item without hyping the mediocre Hp boost. The tornado, however, is another story. I haven't purchased one yet but I am surely going to. The vortex of swirling air should increase air intake significantly thereby increasing available horses.

You were probably right about the price of the Tornado. I haven't been to the site in awhile. I appreciate the feedback as you and others have presented inlightning comments.

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I think your reading into it way to deep, Neil1... all i'm saying is that when you compare 2 air filters- the OEM, and an "equal area" K&N- forr a given throttle opening- the K&N will give you more miles on a tank of gas, than the OEM air filter.....

....I'm also saying that the K&N will give you more ultimate HP and TOrque, out of the motor, when compared to using the OEM air filter... and of course the same goes w/ the TOrnado.... maybe that clears it up?

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Nice truck BTW. It looks a whole lot like gator's

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I've seen alot to nice trucks at this forum.

Yeah, I noticed that it looks somewhat like gator's. But, I never saw or hear about gator until last year when I bought the 3" suspension lift from him. That is the same guy, right? The owner AC Customizers.

Say you wouldn't know where to find a good aluminum diamond plate front skid, would you? I think I may have to build me one. I'm toying with alot of upgrades at the moment. I want to put a roll bar on it and a 3" body lift before the skid.

It's nice to have em paid off and they still run & look good, huh? Only NISSAN!

I've contacted and am waiting for a reply from the seller of the before mentioned timing kit. I believe datz510 has given some sound advice about the electronics.

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Nah, Gator's name is Mike, and so is the owner of AC. All we need is more confusion, right?

Diamond plate for skid? I would rather have just plain alumium. Probably costs less. Your local sheet metal shop would/should have both styles. I know of a couple places in town that do.

Don't go design one til you put the body lift on, as it will not fit after that hehe

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you want power stick to proven power. get an intake an exhaust. i have a k&n cone filter that made more power than my 40seriers flowmaster exhaust. i have a sc model but the basics are the same. an engine is a air pump. the more efficante it pumps air the more hp it makes

2001 just blue sc cc

With these simple moda you to can do a 2 wheel stationary burn out without trying to hard. Magnacore wires, MSD Ignition, Custom exhaust and the K&N FIPK kit. I installed only these and I can speen 31 inch swampers with very little trouble.

Scott "Chia" Holland
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ChiaX,

Where did you get the MSD Ignition? How much? How long for install?

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Was talking to another guy who used an aftermarket ignition on a '97 HB 4 banger. He said it helped, but the ignition box was prone to getting to hot and not working. That's something to think about when it comes time to find a place to mount an aftermarket ignition box.


1998 Frontier 4x4 seriously built
2002 Xterra 4x4 still stock

So as far as you know, is this heating or being prone to heat the only draw back to changing ignitions? Is the unit durable? Is there a need for constant tuning or tweeking of the unit?

Have you heard anything good or bad about the Jacobs Uphill Power Module (UPM)? This thing sounds for real! Somehow, it reads signals from an engine's individual spark plug firings. Then it determines the optimum voltage for each cylinder to deliver maximum power under current operating conditions. Then it delivers that determined voltage from it's internal coil. This thing can sense tilt & angle and deliver the hottest spark and best throttle response for any terrain. (Ned Bacon) Does the MSD do this angle/grade calculation? Has anyone installed either one on the 3.3L?

I first heard of the Jacobs in an article entitled "Uphill Zap" by Ned Bacon in the Dec/Jan 02 Off-Road Adventures Mag. pp. 28-33.

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Yeah, don't have a lot of experience with ignition boxes otherwise, except for the old Crane unit I used to convert my old 240Z to electronic ignition.

As far as I know the heat issue was the only problem he had.

The guy who had it is Silverfox. He posts here. Might try asking him for more details.


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2002 Xterra 4x4 still stock

Well since my X probably runs longer in city traffic more then ya'lls and the MSD Box is mounted on the fender right next to the exhaust manifold I can tell you I havent had any problems with ti in the 6 weeks I have had it in there.

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To throw in something that's been mentioned elsewhere before, there IS a supercharger kit for the pathy 3.3. No one has verified it, but one would think that it should be able to fit a Frontier with modifications...

http://www.kennedysdynotune.com/Pathfinder_Infinity.htm


Dyno'd stock @ 170ft-lb and 133Hp...needs another axle to power, care to send me one?http://home.sprintmail.com/~onlyone/index.html for the website

$3195.00---------This is probably the best unit of all but what a chunk of lettuce to buy! It sounds like and looks like a heavy duty working charger. I think I'm going to have to stick to several smaller mods before something of this magnitude is tried.

I've heard a lot of great suggestions and ideas under this topic and will give some of the more prudent ones a try. For example, a good exhaust might prove to be worth the money. And, a sure fire aftermarket ignition system. But first, I've just got to try the temperature sensor bypass. The resistor kit may not work that good, but even a little bit of extra usable hp is worth the cost & effort of the kit. Comparing the affects of it on an engine to that of a better performance of an engine one receives on a cool day vs. a hot day is fair and reasonable analogy, in my opinion. If this resistor can tell the ECU that its cool outside all the time and the performance curve shifts upwards as a result then GREAT!


On the other hand, it was mentioned that there could perhaps be some detrimental ramifications due to working this sensor bypass kit with the modern O2 sensors on the 3.3L and other later models. I could see where the descrepancy between the O2 sensor and the temp sensor might clash. But, how would this come about and what would be the outcome?

I believe the temp sensor located on the input side of the air flow would dominate the feed-forward O2 sensor located after combustion therby ultimately allowing for a higher hp range. After all, the inlet flow is being flooded with cool, cold air(but not really-only bypassed into thinking so) And, before the O2 sensor recognizes that the burned oxygen particles are not enough(according to the intake air flow temp setting) the engine has already thrusted into a higher output(hp) range. Does that make sense to anyone?

There could be an error code caused by all this which is why I originally brought up this question about the timing advance kit in the first place, hoping someone had already tried one of these kits. Does anyone know for sure? Someone in this forum might but I don't. I'm just inquisitive and willing to give it a try though. If anyone is interested, I'll let them know.

Has anyone ever replaced the O2 sensor and what was the ignition/timing doing to cause the change?

Has anyone ever taken the sensor completely off the engine? Or, modified it?

Thanks for your input.

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I sent them an e-mail asking if this kit had been used to SC a Frontier or X, and what they were doing to the fuel system to compensate, this was the response:

"We designed the supercharger for the 98-2000 Pathfinder and Qx4 to my knowledge they have not been adapted to any other vehicle. We use a Boost-a pump, FMU and a fuel controller to up the fuel pressure and volume under boost conditions."

So I guess that's all the info I have for now.


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