the welder I am going to get is just one of the cheap ones from harbor freight, not the cheapest one, but its a 220, 120 amp i think, and its setup for flux core at first but it is upgradeable to gas if I want.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=55250

compressor is either a rolling 3hp 8 gallon 5.6scfm@90 120v for 149. or a vertical 4hp 29 gallon 14.5scfm@90 220v for 339.

I want to get the big one, but depends on funds at time of purchase, because I also need both these tools soon to finish my quad Im building.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=90234
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92504

I one time had a full set of yota axles for 300 bucks but it was a deal where it was someones property and someone elses junked truck that wouldnt come pick it up but when he found out about the axle sale he came and got it...

The welder you liked to is crap. No trying to be mean, $150 for a mig welder is saying please throw my money away. If you are going to buy a mig a gas set-up is mandatory.

Having said that, why do you want a mig? most people buy them because they thing it's simple and easy to use(I thought the same thing). Since I've started my sas everything on my truck has been done using a 220 stick welder. I've learned a lot. Pretty much any welding I'll ever do a stick with be the way to go. If you are going to be running flux core through a mig you might as well be using a stick.

I would buy either one of the air compressors. They look to be good quality for the price.

FYI- I'm no welder, I posted and read a ton about welding before I started on my sas.

I actually learned on a arc, got used to that way before I ever used a wire feed. I just always here people wanting to ditch the arc anf buy a mig, and I was planning on setting it up for gas sheilding later, just wanted to get going on my quad sooner and buying a cheaper flux core that was upgradable sounded good.

and about the compressors, I done think they are the best out there, but im sure they will pump air into a tank and let it back out when I want it. even if the more expensive one is 100% overrated. half of its rated airflow at 90lbs is more than the 300 dollar ones at HD, and not really sure what you ,mean by not good for the money. I dont know where to get a compressor that puts out a good deal of air, for a cheap price, thats a well known brand name. but the only places i know of are HD/LOWES locally, or northern/harbor freight online.

sorry for the typo, I work nights and post after work. I agree 100% with you on the air compressors. All my air compressors are the cheap knock-off. As long as they'll run the tools I could care less. I don't paint so quality of the compressor doesn't matter.

Sounds like you know what your doing and talking about when it comes to welding. I cant comment on anything more since I just started to learn about welding and welders.

its actually weird, for a long time I welded a better bead with an arc than with a sheilded mig. the mechanic who let me use his shop kept telling me its the easiest weld to do and he could train a monkey to do it in a day.. lol

now I can see how people say it was easy, but with the arc I can lay a good weld, friend of my dads used to work for a boat builder and checked em out and gave me some tips, but he said they looked pretty good, especially since it was only the 4th time weld id made. I dont see how someone could say arc is difficult...

I have never owned one myself so never got to play with settings and thicknesses, but I always had it in my mind, that stick was just for thick @$$ steel for unimportant stuff, and when you have to weld thinner things, or contoured things, mig was the way to go, and if i remember right, even on trucks, and extreme 4x4 and all those shows they use a wire feed on all their stuff, and it is stuff thats gonna be under enormous stress.

I might just do the quad with arc, my dads got one at the shop, its one of those giant generator/welders on a trailer you pull around.

its just tough talking him into letting me come use it.

like said it all depends on what your welding. Thinner things are hard to weld with a stick. They say a master welder can stick anything. It is a lot easier to weld sheet metal with a mig.