Routes

When are you planning on doing it?

It has been 25+ years since I went to Toroweap, but it seems like it was about a 2 hour drive.  I ruined a tire o the way in.  Tis an easy gravel road. 

My map doesn't have the mileage/distance on it.

My memory tells me that your FR takes longer...but the map shows me that that can hardly be the case.

Pt Sublime is really neat...I knew a guy that went there in his Accord.

dates for the run are posted at the top of this forum.

Hey Andy this trip is starting to look really nice.  Thanks for all your hard work on this.  This looks like it will be more a more scenic trip then hard 4x4, Right?

Also, not sure if you are going to pre-run any trips but if so reach out I'd like to help out if I can.

no prerunning.  need a lot more than weekends to get up there for that.  Have been on all this stuff in the past and am assembling this using Google Earth and maps.

Got another day laid out after staring at my NatGeo map software and google earth yesterday.  We will hit ALL the points on the western side of the plateau.    Bragging rights!  haha

I also have a design for this year's Tshirts.  Just need to get a sticker done and I'll start taking preorders for those, likely in April.   I'm also targeting mid April to have the itinerary complete.  It will be chock full of GPS waypoints that you tech heads can plug in and map out the routes.

Getting excited about this!

So how many continuous miles do you think we will do between re-fuel opportunities?  I still have my 15-gallon transfer cylinder tank that I bought for AZ IX so I was going to rig up something to haul that along, giving me about 34 gallons total.

that will be more than enough.  I'll be carrying an extra 10 gals myself above and beyond my 14.5 gallon tank.

Ok its all mapped out on google earth!  Now I gotta get it all in a document.  Trail guides will be ready soon!

Cool!

Looking forward to this one.

Got a few hours in on the trail guide yesterday.  Sitting at about 50% complete right now.

Stickers arrived.  Tshirt design is done.  Collecting preorders now. 

Current status of the Fuller Fire.

They are hoping to lift access restrictions soon but this is where they currently stand, which may negatively impact trail access.

Open:Highway 67; North Rim Visitor Center, Lodge and Campground; Fuller Canyon Road; Point Imperial and Cape Royal Roads; Cape Royal Trail; Cape Final Trail; Cliff Springs Trail; and FSR 22 and Rainbow Rim Trail on the Kaibab National Forest.

Closures: These closures are in place until further notice. All USFS areas east of Highway 67 and south of Tater Ridge Rd (FSR 213) and east of House Rock Valley Rd (FSR 8910). Trails: Arizona Trail: Lindberg Hill north to the Park boundary; Ken Patrick Trail: starting at the Uncle Jim Trail junction; Point Imperial Trail; Nankoweap Trail; Saddle Mountain Trail; and South Canyon Trail. Road closures include: FSR 610 and FSR 611. All closures remain in place until further notice.

I'll keep an eye on it and pipe up again as we get closer to the run.

Thanks for these updates, Georgie.  This could affect the Thursday/Friday routes and the Thursday night camp site.  We may have to improvise.  I'll get into the maps when I get a chance to find these roads and see how much of our route is impacted.

We have a few weeks to get things back open.  Burning over by Nankoweep hurts my heart because it was so beautiful over there.

Yeah, Thursday and Friday's routes are currently impacted. The trails leading up to and including these points:

• Marble Canyon
• Marble Point
• Dog Point

These three points and their trails are within the restriction boundaries of the map on Inciweb. They put out a notice and a map. It's a smoldering type of fire in that area and is about 47% contained at the moment. Point Imperial is just outside the restriction map.

http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/map/4845/9/54024/

http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/4845/

https://www.facebook.com/FullerFire

UPDATE!!

Looks like they shrunk the area but Dog Point, Marble Point and Marble Canyon are still inside the boundary, in effect until August 31st. 

Closure Map http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos...160704-103656-0.jpeg

Revised closure order 8-4-16

Incident: Fuller Fire Wildfire Released: 4 hrs. ago

Order Number: 07-16-10-F

ORDER

FULLER FIRE TEMPORARY AREA/TRAIL CLOSURE

KAIBAB NATIONAL FOREST

NORTH KAIBAB RANGER DISTRICT

Pursuant to 16 U.S.C. 551 and Title 36 CFR 261.50 (a) and/or (b), the following acts are prohibited in areas as described in this Order on National Forest System lands administered by the Kaibab National Forest, North Kaibab Ranger District in Coconino County in the State of Arizona. The restricted area is depicted on the attached map, hereby incorporated into this Order as Exhibit A.

PROHIBITIONS:

1. Being in an area, 36 CFR 261.53(e)
2. Being on a trail, 36 CFR 261.55(a)
3. Being on the road, 36 CFR 261.54(e)

EXEMPTIONS:

Pursuant to 36 CFR 261.50 (e), the following persons are exempt from this order:

1. Any Federal, State, or local officer, or member of an organized rescue or fire fighting force in the performance of an official duty; and,
2. Persons with a permit specifically authorizing the otherwise prohibited act or omission.

AREA DESCRIBED:

The Boundary of this area closure starts east of Hwy 67 at the junction of FR 610 and FR 611, heading northeast where the junction of FR611 and the North Canyon Trail intersect, continuing on the North Canyon Trail to the Trailhead on FR 631, then south on FR 631 to the junction with FR 445A, then northeast along FR 445A to the junction with FR 8910, then southeast along FR8910 to the Forest boundary with Grand Canyon National Park and following this boundary south and west to FR 610 “This Order only affects National Forest System Lands.”

PURPOSE:

This order is needed for public safety due to the Fuller Fire.

IMPLEMENTATION:

1. This Order will be in effect when signed and shall remain in effect until August 31, 2016, or until rescinded, whichever event occurs first.

Done at Williams, Arizona, this 3rd day of August, 2016.

Heather C. Provencio_

HEATHER C. PROVENCIO

Forest Supervisor

Kaibab National Forest

Violation of this Order is punishable as a Class B misdemeanor by a fine of not more than $5,000.00 for individuals and $10,000.00 for organizations, or imprisonment for not more than six (6) months, or both. [Title 16 USC 551, Title 18 USC 3885, Title 18 USC 3571, and Title 18 USC 3581].

in effect until 8/31....interesting.  We'll be in that area 9/1-2

Let's hope those dates don't move and the trails open up on the 1st, else we'll have to wing it.

Update...

Contacted Kiabab Ranger District. They expect the area to remain closed to access for quite a while and are not expecting to lift the restrictions during our time frame. The roads that make up the Fuller Fire restriction boundary are also off-limits, so we will not be able to access planned destination on Thursday of Friday. So, we do need a plan B.

On the bright side, there are currently NO fire restriction in the Kiabab National Forest, so we can have a campfire!

I called them yesterday myself.  It's the road out to Nankoweep that is closed (FR610 I think).  it will impact us some on Thursday and Friday.  I'll look for alternatives.  Won't be updating the trail guide.  Need yet to determine if we can still get to the Thursday campsite.

I was told only FR610 and FR219 are actually closed, rendering our Thursday night camp unreachable.  So we'll camp at Dog Point (a Friday morning destination) on Thurs instead.  Kind of a bummer, as I was looking forward to Marble Point - that would have been our highest elevation camp, but we'll adapt and overcome.

From waypoint 139, we'll skip Waypoints 140-145.  Use the Friday morning navigation from Waypoint 139 to get to Dog Point for our Thursday night Camp.  That just means that maybe we'll sleep in a bit on Friday since the Friday route is now shorter

Yay!

Sounds like a plan

Jesse and I will just hang out in back and follow you fools in the front.

given our group size it might make sense to break up into two smaller groups for at least parts of the run.  We can figure that out when the time comes

I'm sure Jesse and I can lead a second group around if necessary.

let's see how good my nav system works...lol

Yup.  Believe we can.